To be quite frank...the human brain is still a mystery. Most doctors will agree to this. So I suppose it stands to reason that the possibility exist. Its difficult to predict the unpredictable. However, the way I understood from watching the fanfest stream and hearing them talk about this. The way it is coded in, you either get rid of it or keep it...there isnt any way to make it optional yet. That's not to say its impossible, but if they did, it certainly wouldnt make the point release for Odyssey...more likely winter.

People DID point out the problems:

Can we turn this off?

"post-jump rotation "around ship" will lead to motion sickness"

camera spinning with each jump gets a bit nauseating after a few jumps

I can see this getting VERY old very fast

please add an option to disable it for people with motion sickness

Nice effect - the first 10 jumps. Then, it just gets boring and the camera movement after you jumped really gets annoying

it causes motion sickness

it feels like getting sick if you have to do more than 2 jumps

I have to go along with the "this causes headaches" group

This will obviously cause trouble to people who suffer from motion sickness

after 10 jumps I felt dizzy and after 17 jumps I got sick

This one nails it: please, before rolling this on Tranquility, make team-wide playtest with 30+ systems manual jump route. If anyone will get motion sickness in the middle of the route, then animation clearly not done yet


Basically every complaint post-patch was raised pre-patch !

This is a very disappointing attitude. Are you really trying to imply that CCP is incapable of implementing a toggle like we already have for camera shake and camera centering because the old lines of code have been removed? Or are you just trying to antagonize players who don't want your newly coded eye candy?

I get that CCP coders are defensive about their new beautiful jump animation graphics, but your attitude sucks bro. Would you like some feedback from the players who don't have time to mess around on Sisi? Clearly you would not, but here it comes anyway:

This new jump animation is disorienting and distracting. It has the subtlety and class of a pimped out El Dorado that won best in show for Mexico City. It quite literally jerks the players around in a manner so unpleasant as to encourage players to CLOSE THEIR EYES to avoid having to look at it repeatedly. The distraction is an unwelcome one. It feels like a mini-movie is being played to me against my will over and over again while I'm trying to play the game. The action for me is on the GRID not in the film shorts.

It literally feels like I am being flushed down a toilet, or swallowed like a glass of water, when I jump now.

I am all for the HTFU attitude when it comes to game balance issues. People who whine about their FOTM getting nerfed deserve no sympathy. However, this isn't a game balance issue. This is just eye candy distracting from the game, exactly like the (still) unfinished WIS. The main difference is the jump graphics are being repeatedly shoved straight down the throat of second-to-second undocked game play.

I have no way to compare it, but it FEELS slower between jumps now for PVP. There are plenty of times when split seconds matter for someone trying to jump through a gate and cold warp.

This is how PVP feels now:

1) Players: "Incursus landing on the gate at zero. Jumping through with him."
2) CCP: *SPIN* *FLUSH* "HEY LOOK AT OUR NEW OUTLANDISH JUMP GRAPHICS! AREN'T THEY COOL!!!?!?"
3) Players: "He's burning back to the gate, someone force him through... he's jumping, jump after him!"
2) CCP: *SPIN* *FLUSH* "HEY LOOK AT OUR NEW OUTLANDISH JUMP GRAPHICS! AREN'T THEY COOL!!!?!?"
5) Players: "Couldn't lock in time, he's warped to the X gate. Following in warp. Jumping behind him again."
6) CCP: *SPIN* *FLUSH* "HEY LOOK AT OUR NEW OUTLANDISH JUMP GRAPHICS! AREN'T THEY COOL!!!?!?"

PROPOSED SOLUTION: Dump non-player-controlled movement (camera reorientation) entirely. Cut the tunnel graphics time in half. Or better yet, just go back to the old system and use the pretty new video sequence for promo videos.

I wont believe anyone here that he's getting motion sickness from this effect

So when warping around everything ok?
MWD on frigate/ orbiting everything ok?
Action games 10x faster/flashy than eve everything ok?

But that one short, cool, not even medium flashy or very fast effect makes You feel bad? Just lol

I got myself a little motion sicknes but this effect don't make me feel bad, i fly today and yesterday over 100jumps and watching at most of them (they just fantastic) and i feel perfect.

Maybe stop lying, or don't sit 12h in game, move sometimes and You will feel better, because that's the cause of feeling bad, not jump effect.

And some dudes saying "i do 50 jumps and feel bad" lol who make a lot of jumps and look at every one of them?

Just don't be silly or some kind of ailing fat not moving ***** ffs

And as I said, there are practical and simple things that the player can do to stop the sickness, seeing as it's most likely their posture and bad habits that are causing it in the first place.

Same here. First time post. Would like an "off" switch for the animation.

Well, you guys still are paying them... right?

So you are actually going to unsub over an animation? Well I guess each to his own, but that seems a little extreme to me.

Reading the thread, it seems its not the warp tunnel, but the camera rotation prior and after the jump that Is causing problems.

like i said.
do something about the sudden, uncontrollable camera movement, and you fix the motion sickness issue.

without the camera movement, you have the same effect as warping though a planet. and i have never seen a thread about removing warp effects.

Actually, due to the nature of how this effect is coded and linked to game mechanics, an "animation off" button is likely to be extremely difficult to code.

It's tied to fundamental game mechanics and resource handling, not a glitz effect like a turret animation or muzzle flash.

You folks really need to understand that some effects can not be made optional, they can only be changed in their entirety else they need to be completely redesigned from the ground up.

I think if they tweaked how the camera swing works a bit, perhaps slowing it down (that would take some experimentation) most people complaining would be satisfied... but I wouldn't count on it becoming optional.

There are aspects in every game or other piece of software that you have ever used that are hard coded, and these are usually done that way for a reason (often having to do with them being linked to resource allocation during processor or memory intensive tasks).
And no, it's highly unlikely they will see a loss in subs... just as they lost no subs the last few times threads like this cropped up for a few days after a new effect is introduced.

The goal was 'immersion' and the result for some was 'motion sickness' ... maybe its time to introduce a 'Windows-type' ease of access center for members with visual sensibilities which will allow them to turn off the good stuff.

I actually love the graphics as it brings in a much needed level of stress and immersion to what was becoming more of an intellectual exercise.

You think this is bad... wait til the Oculus Rift helmet is integrated into Eve

I'm not sure that pointing out what is quite probably the most idiotic thing the EvE community allowed itself to get worked up about is doing much for your cause.

I must say that ccp did a great job with the animations but they for got one thing not everyone would want it.

the next mistake ccp did was replying to this post with the old code is gone. kinda reminds me of ccp before CQ with the you don't like it that's tough ****.

ccp where is your pr department for these kinds of posts?

Still, you'd think they'd at least have something to say in response, apart from what we got at the very beginning of the thread.

Just because CCP made allowances for the idiocy doesn't make it any less idiotic.

From what i see (and that smaaaaall number of topics/post on forum) more than 90% of players like new jump animations, and they don't cry.

Don't sit 20cm from monitor 12h per day and maybe You will feel better ffs

I'm glad CCP is driving this game not forum whiners

The tracking camera is by no means related to the new gate jump animation, so your "advise" is worth nothing.
Why not log in and actually play the game?

Wading into a can of worms I'm sure, but here goes.

We ARE looking at this and considering what we can do. The back end system used by the client has changed which makes a "turn off" not a real proposition. We are looking at ways to reduce the nausea reaction some players are experiencing through other means.

It would be helpful if we got feedback about what in particular during the jump sequence is causing the most difficulty

I am sorry for those adversely affected,.

Interesting. This thread is still going after 93 pages and over 12 months.* 'Can we turn off the new jump animation?' doesn't seem like such a hot topic, but I guess you never know....

*#1 Posted: 2013.06.04 17:26

Let's make it longer by talking about how long it is lol

Wait, there's a new jump animation? When did this happen?

So in a pure EVE-o fashion, we can tell all the people affected by this to go play in WH if they are not happy right?

I'm pretty sure telling people to play a different way instead of asking for a change about something has been common for quite a long time here.

And another.